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CONGESSIONAL RECR -SEN'ATE
whether or not it is germane
postoloture.
I guess pairt of your request is that
we go immediatelyT to the cloture vote.
I w onder if you are xwilling to delete
that second paragraph or if you are
willing to ma ke sure tha t the Gras sley
am endment w ould be in order, reg ard-
less of which way the result of the clo-
ture vote would o ccur.
Mr. DAS CHL E. I would want to con-
sult with the Parliamentarian and 2en-
ator HAniKIN and others. We have at-
tempted, as the Senator knows, to ac-
conmmodate a number of Senators w ho
have ask1ed to be exempted from clo-
ture limitations follow ing the time
when cloture is invoked. I am not en-
thusiastic about expanding.
Again, it would be my understanding
that these amendments would be avail-
able to us pos tcloture, with cVarifica-
tion of the Parliamentarian, and w e
ill offer this at another time.
IMr. NICKLES. Mi. President, if I
might inquire, at a previous time I
asked1 the ma jority leader if this
amendment would be in order, or part
of the unanimous consent that this
amendment would be in order
pos tcloture, and w e agreed to that.
Does that agreement still carry? There
weie four or fixe amendments, if I re-
member correctly, or one or tw o, and a
couple of others. If they were agreed
to, there were two additional ones. If
that still applies, that is fine wi'th this
Senator.
IMr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I in-
tended this as a new unanimous con-
sent request. Therefore, the other
ones-because of the old unanimous
consent request-hav-e alreadyT expired.
TechnicallyT, it vould not carry-.
I think the iest thing to do would be
to consult with the Pa rliamentarian in
terms of genmaneness and make a deci-
sion at a later time.
I wonder if w e might proceed. The
cloture vote, by rules of the Senate,
tak es place within I hour after w e
come in. We do not need the second
portion of the unanimous consent re-
quest in order to proceed with cloture.,
Bu.t I would like to acommodate Sen-
ator HUTcHINSON. I would make tha t
request.
The ACTING. PRESIDENT pro tem-
pore. Is there objection?,
Mr. NICKLES., Reserving the right to
object, I w ant to make sure what w e
are doing. First, the leader said we
would like to inquiire whether or not
Senator GRAssLEY and others Tant to
offer their amendments. I want to pro-
tect their rights to offer their anmend-
ments.
There is an amendment dealing with
payment limitation, Some of us are
kind of concerned about the underlying
Harkin bill that has payment limita-
tions of 250. That can be expanded to
500 per family, The Grassley amend-
ment that Senator DOPGAN and others
have supported would reduce that, Iwa nt to make sure that amendment is
going to be debated before we conclude
the agriculture bill, I don't w ant that
anendnment to be ruled nongermane
postcloture. Iha t is wha t I am trying
to find out before we make an aree-
m 'ent.
Parliamentary inquiry: Is the Grass-
leyT amendment germane postoloture?
Mr. REID. Mr. President, will the
Senator from Oklahoma yield for a
quest tion?
Mr., NICKL ES. I would be happy to
yield.,
Mr. REID. Is tha t the same asthe
original Dorgan am endment?
Mlr. NICKLEK. T'hat is correct.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem-
poie. The amendment has not yet been
reviewed for germanene ss.
Mr., NICKLES. I didn't catch that.,
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tem-
pore. The amendment has not been re-
viewed1 for germaiieness.
Mr. NICKLES. That wasn't my un-
derstanding. Regardless, I will vigor-
ously oppose cloture if that is what the
majorityT leader's intention is. I urg e
him to ask consent to postpone the dlo-
tur e vote until w e determine w hat the
ouit ome of some of these amendmnents
is. Some of us are going to continue to
oppose cloture until we havTe a chance
to have our amendments heard, de-
bated, and voted ci in the Senate.
If -ou insist t-and I am sure the ma-
jority lea der is correct most of the
time-cloture will expire after so many
hours. But I will just tell him that
some of us are going to be opposing clo-
ture vigorous ly until the Senator from i
Iowa and others have a chance to have
theii amendments heard and voted on.
Mlr. DASCHLE. Mlr. President, I am
veryT sym 'pathetic to the Senator fironi
01klahoma. WeT have been on this bill
for aii awfully long time. I think w'e are
almost at a point where we have bro-
ken the record now foi the length of
tinme we have been on a farm bill. Sen-
tators had maiiy opportunities to offer
amendments at nig ht and during the
day.- I am not really sy mpathetic to
those who suggest that somehow we
have not accorded enough time to some
of these amendments.
I also say we have cone to the con-
clus ion tha t we a re going to have to
mak e a decision about the farm bill. If
we are unable to invToke cloture, it is
my intention to put it back on the cal-
enda r, regrettably, a nd then mi'ove to
other issues We have conference re-
poits that have to be done before we
leave. There aie other pieces of busi-
ness tha t are required of us. This will
be the third cloture vote. There will be
no more cloture votes in this session of
Congress on the farm bill.
Senators are going to have to make
up their minds: Do they want to indefi-
nitely pos tpone and thereby kill our
chances for completing Tork on the
farm bill this y-ear or not? If they want
to kill it, they will Tote against dlo-ture. If they wa nt to support com-
pleting our work, they will vote for
cloture this afternoon and we will com-
plete our work. That stiil requires 30
hours of debate on the bill prior to the
time we complete our work. That
means that relevant amendments w ill
be entertained, will be accepted, or
voted upon a nd cons idered as germa ne
amendments. That is the prerog ative of
every Senator even after cloture, Per-
haps amendments can be designed to be
germane, I certainly think a payent
limit amendment is germane to the
bill.
We ought to find the language e that
accomm 'odates the Senator from Okla-
hona, if that is his intent,
But I w ill say we have been on this
bill for a record amount of time. It will
be virtually a record if we complete our
30 hours, We do havTe othei veryT impor-
tant matters pending.
I want to make sure all Senators are
put on notice. Three times, and we are
out iin terms of cloture. iid three
times, it seems to me, ought to be ade-
quate time for everyThody to haxve had
their anendnments considered. As wve
havye noted, a number of other col-
leagues have asked for special consid-
eration for their amendim'ents. We are
attempting to do that. We havTe to
move on,
MVr. REID, Mr. President, will the
majority leader yield?
Mr. DASCHLE. Yes,
Mr. REID. I syto the distingulied1
majority leader that I have received
tw o notes from the cloak room that
theyT want to put out a list if .n fact
there is a post loture llist of amend-
ments.
I also say tha t last night I had a con-
versation with a num 'ber of farm State
Senators who hav-e been voting against
clotuic. They said if ye vould fllow
Hutchinsoni a vote, they would I e will-
ing to vote foi cloture,
We worked last night and all morn-
ing tiniig to w ork out an arrangement
where there could be a vote on Hutch-
inson, We havye given the Hutchinison
forces 1 hour, We have taken 15 min-
utes to show that w e aie serious about
moving this bill forward. It appears
that no niatter what we do, it isn't
quite enough,
I hope my T ounterpart, the dlistin-
guished assistant minority leader, will
allow us to go forward. This is an op-
portunity, in my- opinion, to pass a
farm I ill, We will live by whatever the
rules are,
I was informed, ohbiously- incor-
rectly, yes terday that the Ptarliamnen-
tarian though ht Dorgan would be in
order postcloture. I hope it is, I think
it is something we should debate,
But the fact of the matter is w e hav-e
gone a long way this morning in work-
ing this ouit, I applaud the Senator
from Arkansas, He wanted more timie
than the hour-an houi and 15 minutes.
He )elieved, I guess, that was faiir.December 19, 2001
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