1995 Army Team Lead Desk Material - Adds to List Hearing, May 21, 1993 Page: 58 of 222
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69CHAIRMAN COURTER: Yes.
CDR CRUZE: It's in the
executive sumry, right in the beginning. I
don't have the book with me.
While you're Looking at that,
in response to one of your other questions,
right now, there is approximtely 2,400
military, including forces afloat, and 200
civilian at Ingleside. There are 11
addItional vessels over the next few years
scheduled to go to Ingleside. Most of these
are MNCs.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: I'm still
trying to find where it is in the GAO report,
because Iwould like to --
MR. YELLING: It's in the GAO
report on mine countermeasures. It's not in
our GAO report.
COR CRUZE: It's not in our
GAO report. It's a February 1993 GAO report
on the Location of mine forces in Ingleside.
It's a very thin report, about 8 or 10 pages
long.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: And wasn't
it mentioned in our GAO report?
COR CRUZE: I don't believe it
was; no, sir.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: I thought
that it was. Maybe not. The GAo is known for
its pithy and tough language, and I understand
that. But nevertheless, that is pretty strong
language. And why do you think they used such
strong Language?
DR CRUZE: It was very strong
Language. I don't know why they used it. I
would note, however, that the Center for Naval
Analysis also did a study on this same move
and came up with comparable conclusions.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Comparable
to whom?
COR CRUZE: Comparable to the
GAO report.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: What were
their reco Lendat ions?
CDR CRUZE: I believe their
best alternative -- if I remember correctly,
the best CIA alternative was to locate the
sine warfare assets in Little Creek.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: In the
Norfolk area?
CDR CRUZE: The Norfolk area.
COISSIONER BOMAN: These
assets could be located in a rumter of places?
COR CRUZE: Yes, sir, they
could.
COMISSIONER BYRON: Wasn't
one of the rationales behind the move the fact
that, for a tong period of time, the question
has been asked of the Navy why they did not
put together a center of excellence for mine
warfare questione again and again?
And it seemed that mine
warfare was not very high on the Niavy's
priority l ist, yet it is a key ccaponent, as
we sa ringg the Gulf War. And was that a
driving force and factor in the creation of a
mine warfare compotaud?
OR01 CRUZE: Wllt, I don't
exactly know what the driving force behind the55
senior Leadership's decisions were, but I do
know that there has been concern in the Navy
that, when located in Large fleet
concentrations, it sort of has come up on the
bottom of the totem pole on the priority list.
There was particular concern that there needed
to be more emphasis on mine warfare after
Desert Storm, for what I hope are obvious
reasons.
And part of the decision
process was that -- I think part of the
decision process was that if the Navy Locates
its mine warfare assets in one Location by
itself where they don't have to compete,
they're top of the totem pole, and there is a
property selected flag officer running the
show, then we will make improvements, and we
will be strategically and operationally more
prepared for future contingencies.
COIN I SS I ONER STUART: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Yes.
COMMISSIONER STUART: Would it
move the process along if we prepared for a
motion?
CHAIRMAN COJTER: Yes. I'm
prepared for a motion. Go right ahead. I
still have a couple questions, but we can do
that after there's a motion on the table.
I'll entertain a motion.
COMMISSIONER STUART: I move
the Commission consider Naval Station
Ingleside, Texas, as a proposed addition to
the Secretary's list of military installations
recommended for closure or realignments.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Do I hear
second to the motion?
COMMISSIONER BOMAN: Second.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Any further
discussion on this? I've got a couple of
questions. We're open for discussion.
There's a motion, and it has been properly
seco ned.
And that is, just so I
understand the situation with regard to the
Navy mine warfare move, it strikes me right
now, and I just want confirmation from the
staff, if they can confirm it, that,
irrespective of what we say, the Navy's going
to do what they want to do, because it's an
operational move, rumber one; doesn't call for
the closure of a facility, number two; and in
any event, even if it did, it's below
threshold, ramber three.
CDR CRUZE: Well, I would have
to answer that in the sense that, again, if
you, the commissioners, decide that Naval
Station Ingleside should close, they have to
do something else. In the absence of that,
their plan is to move the mine warfare assets
and the center for mine warfare excellence to
Ingleside.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: in other
words, if Ingleside survives, the Navy can do
that which they want to do, irrespective of
the Base CLosing Coirmission, for all those,
period.
MR. YELLIN: Yes, sir.
CHAIlRMAN COURTER: But there's
a raster of reasons. I t' s below threshold, Wm
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