1995 Army Team Lead Desk Material - Adds to List Hearing, May 21, 1993 Page: 42 of 222
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15 up, please.
done with it.LTC RICHARDELLA: No, I'm not
MR. YELLIN: Excuse me. Put1
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69right.
is what?CHAIRMAN COURTER: And then 15
LTC RICHARDELLA: 15 is an
alternative, Mr. Chairman, raised by the
coamanity that involves keeping El Toro open
and the closure of Naval Air Station Miramar.
COMMISSIONER MCPHERSON: Which
connmni ty?
LTC RICHARDELLA: Excuse me,
sir?
COMMISSIONER MCPHERSON: You
said "raised by the community." Which
comuanity? Or is it just everybody else out
there?
LTC RICHARDELLA: The Orange
County, California, community.
COMMISSIONER MCPHERSON:
Orange County?
LTC RICHAROELLA: Yes, sir.
IR. YELLIN: We have received
other options. The other options we're not
planning to display today, because they don't
involve any alternative closure decisions.
They involve the realignment of different
things going to different places. But this is
the only option that we have seen, we have
been presented with, that requires the
addition of an additional base as a potential
closure realignment. And that's why we're
focusing on this proposal.
CHAIRMAN CCURTER: Slide 15 is
the only alternate proposal that --
MR. YELLIM: That involve a
change in the list. We have alternative
proposals --
CHAIRMAN COUNTER: That
involves an additional closure?
MR. YELLIN: Yes.
COMMISSIONER BOMAN: 15 is
just a substitution of closing Miramar for El
Toro?
MR. YELLIN: Right. Let's
just go through that.
COMISSIONER MCPHERSON: Are
these recommendations both by the Pentagon and
the one from Orange County driven by a
downsizing of the Air Force or of the Marine
Corps and navy air wings, or is this just kind14 beck up, please.
LTC RICHARDELLA:
Barber's Point, which is a closure, most of
the aircraft are being moved to Kanoehe Bay,
which had been realigned in the recommndation
in 16P3 to hicby Island in Washington. On*
squadron of aircraft from El Toro, one from
Tustin, and the remainder helicopters at
Kanoehe Bay are relocated to Camp Pendleton.
Please put up 15 now, then,
please. Thank you.
Slide 15 --
CHAIRMAN CARTER: Simply put,
14 is, in essence, a flow of the
recoindat ions from the service?
LTC RICHARDELLA: That's39
of moving the chess pieces around the board
for greater efficiencies of one kind or
another? What's driving these
recommendat ions?
LTC RICHARDELLA: Welt, it is
driven by a reduction in force Levels between
now and 1999 sometime in the future. And also
as I discussed with respect to the East Coast,
the location of those forces in places
acceptable for training, such that you'll see
in this recoumnecwation and that are close
enough to use in the West Coast Marine
division of Camp Pendleton to allow affordable
training.
MR. YELLIN: But overall,
though, the force structures are not coming
down dramatically. The nutmers of aircraft
wings are basically controlled by the nuter
of aircraft carriers, and those numbers are
not coming down substantially, so there are
some reductions. And over the period of time
toward the end of the century, there may be a
different mix of airplanes, and that does have
some effect on this. But overall, the Navy is
increasing the loading at some air stations in
order to save overhead by closing other air stations.
MR. BEHRMAMN: Mr. McPherson,
I think that the Last comment gets to it most
accurately. What you see the Navy doing
strategywise is wherever there's excess,
trying to maximize, eliminating that excess.
Some of these things are costly to do, but
they're trying to get their air assets onto
fewer bases and load those bases up and take
advantage of any excess out there. So there
is a lot of interconnection and a lot of kind
of confusing movement of aircraft. And it's
pretty interrelated for that reason.
MR. YELLIN: And one thing
you'll see here is that these are very costly,
all of these things, because you are building
a lot of new facilities in order to add these
extra planes to these bases. As you can see
from the -- and maybe we should put up slide
nber 16 now and take dowm the one on the
right. Take down 14, put that up.
CHAIRMAN COUNTER: Before we
get into that, you're going to explain the
military construction obligations that occur
by virtue of either one of these two
scenarios. And we know that that's going to
be the case. When you take out one of these
either Marine Corps or Navy air stations, it's
going to require construction in the receiving
one, and the construction is just incredibly expensive.
But in order to make sure that
the Commission has a better grasp than I do
with regard to that which occurred in '91 and
what is recommended in '93 --if you, Alex and
Rich, you would put up 14. That goes back to
the DOW recoumendtat i on. But, from my
recollection, the Tustin facility was voted to
be closed in 1991.
MR. TELLIN: Yes, sir.
CHAIN RMAN COJUTER: So we can
circle that in the sense that that was
something that was done by the '91 Commission. +
It's not a new recommendation. T'he assets areas
st ilL there, the planes are still there.
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