1995 Army Team Lead Desk Material - Adds to List Hearing, May 21, 1993 Page: 39 of 222
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69Little bit? We have heard from particularly
the JacksonvilLe area that there's
comparatively Little of either. And also,
there was some indication that there's future
plans at a potentially competing base with
regard to new airport facilities. Could you
address that?
LTC RICHARDELLA: Yes, sir.
The reason I ode the comnnt future for
Jacksonville on the air side -- there were
several reasons, actually. The first is
probably the fact that that area, Northern
Florida, is probably if not one of the
fastest, the fastest growing in terms of civil
aviation traffic in the country.
When you consider that, in
tight of the fact that both approach and
departure traffic to and from Cecil is
controlled by the FAA and the fact that the
requirements for air space around Cecil to
support the mission there are currently being
negotiated with the FAA, I felt that was
definitely a factor that might affect future
operations at Cecil, especially if the base
loading increased.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Could we
hear from Mr. Kraus on that issue?
MS. KRAUS: Yes, sir. Civil
aviation is growing in the North-South routes
to and from Florida dramatically. Most of the
aircraft flying to and from Florida go over
the Jacksonvi lle War TAC, wh ich is located
East of Cecil Field. And you have most of
your activity in that area.
The FAA has been negotiating
with the military for many years in
utilization of the air space that is South of
Navy Cecil where they train and is continuing
to negotiate for additional use of that air
space or gaining some of that air space back
again.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: You said
those negotiations have been going on for a
period of time?
MS. KRAUS: They have been
going on for several years.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: And the
reason negotiations exist is because of the
need for addi tional civilian air routes?
MS. KRAUS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN CQJRTER: And that
has been the FAA position for how long?
MS. KRAUS: Several years in
gaining additional air space or utilization of
that air space when the restricted areas and
military operating areas were not in use, but
it is more and more now that air space is
needed almost all the time.
GEN JOHNSON: But isn't that
sawe answer true across our country?
MS. KUS: Yes, sir, bit in
the Navy Cecilt area and the Southern Florida
routes, it is increasing more in traffic going
to Florida.
COMMISSIONER CCX: And what is
the impact of that? The airplanes go around
that, or are we seeing delays in that area
already?
MS. KRAUS: The traffic goesaround the restricted areas and the military
operating areas to the West side and to the
East side, particularly down the coast of
Florida. Some of the activity off of Cecil in
particular will have to fly through the civil
corridors that go from Jacksonville down to
Daytona and corntirue South out to the warning
areas over the ocean and have to be intermixed
or go through the traffic that is flying
North-South.
COMMISSIONER STUART: Are
there altitude regulations that avoid or
diffuse the problem to some extent?
MS. KRAUS: In the restricted
areas and the military operating areas, yes,
sir, there are altitude capping in that area
of which the civil aircraft can fly over the
top of.
COMMISSIONER STUART: Thank
you.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Rich, with
respect to, then, ground encroachment, we have
Cecil as a yes from the Navy, Oceans some, and
Beaufort none. Focusing your attention on
Cecil and the APZs, the accident potential
zones, is there anything of substance that has
already been constructed in the APZs around
Cecil?
LTC RICHARDELLA: Not in the
APZs, sir, but there are several other factors
that Led me to the answer I have, and I would
Like to run through those quickLy for you.
One is the possibility of the
development of a landfill in the area of West
of Jacksonville, which causes a bird control
problem, and that wouldn't be a problem in
this case, except that Location is in the
approach and departure corridor for the
airport. Secondly --
CHAIRMAN COURTER: is that in
existence, the Landfill?
LTC RICHARDELLA: I'm sorry,
sir?
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Is the
Landfill that would create a bird problem in
existence?
LTC RICHARDELLA: Not yet, no.
But the potential for it to be placed there in
the future is a possibility.
Secondly, the development
around the outlying field which Cecil uses for
most of its field carrier landing practice is
an issue, because it has caused light
saturation. And ideally, that field would
have no tight, so it could simulate a carrier
landing deck.
Thirdly, because of
development around the APZs, as you've
mentioned, and around and up to the point the
AICUZ, the zoning which is in effect to
prevent development, noise complaints are very
frecpuent, I think 3 to 500 times per year.
GiN JOHNSON: What's the total
nubr of noise complaints?
tiC RI[CHARDELLA: Three to 500
times a year.sure about that?
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Are you
LTC RICHARDELLA: It's in the
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