1995 Army Team Lead Desk Material - Adds to List Hearing, May 21, 1993 Page: 14 of 222
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69of that, Commissioner Stuart, and we have been
working with the State of Missouri to obtain
same degree of assurance that they would grant
the necessary permits to conctict both chemical
and smoke training at Fort Leonard Wood. We
do not have those assurances as of this tim.
GEM JOHNSON: As a follow-up,
the rmtlers you have don't involve moving the
live agent facility to Missouri?
MR. BROWN: That is correct,
Commissioner Johnson. It does not involve
moving the live agent of the chemical
decontamination training facility from Fort
McClellan to Fort Leonard Wood.
GEM JOHNSON: So the nhmers
are apples and oranges and don't really give
us a basis to make a final decision?
MR. BROWN: We do have numbers
that show that.
MR. DUFFY: We would save an
additional $10 million a year by moving the
chemical decom facility--
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Speak a
little bit more slowly. It's a big room, and
you have to articulate in order to make sure
everybody understands.
MR. DUFFY: The Army would
save an additional S10 milLion a year by
moving --
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Ten
million?
MR. DUFFY: Yes, sir. By
moving the chemical defense training facility
to Fort Leonard Wood. Same payback year.
COMMISSIONER STUART: But you
are not yet sure whether you can get
permission to?
MR. OUFFY: Sir, we have had
several communications from the Department of
Natural Resources in the State of Missouri,
and they are quite sure that the permits will
not be a problem. They have, in fact,
recently permitted the Lake City Army
ammunition plant, which has a hazardous waste
incinerator. That permit was received within
nine months of the time they received the
application.
The smoke training, there will
be a test done on the 23rd of May. The state
will be present to determine what the possible
effects of smoke training are on the
envi ronment.
CHAIRMAN COURTER: Keeping in
mind that all this information is very, very
helpful, but perhaps is more helpful with
regard to the issue of McClellan than it is
for Leonard Wood. And it's not necessarily
germane or that important with respect to the
issue that I'm going to pose in a minute, and
that is, is there a motion by anybody to gut
Leonard W!ood on a l ist for potential cLosure,
a review list.
GEM JOHNSON: I woutd like to
make a motion, but before I do - -
CHAIRMAN CWURTER: WJeLl, let's
finish this.
COMMISSIONER BOWAN: And I
would i ke to make one more comment before the
motion, too.MR. BROWN: What I just want r
to cover, Mr. Chairman, were the concerns
raised by the community at Fort McClelLan,
interested citizens, the commissioners and the
staff, and these include, as has been brought
out, the separation of the chemical school and
the chemical decontamination training
facility, the uncertainty of whether the State
of Missouri would provide the necessary
permits, and the probabiLity that very Little
of Fort McClelLan would be available for
community reuse if the DOD recamendation is
endorsed by the Commission.
MR. BEHRMANN: General .
Johnson, I just wanted to make a general
comment before you entertain a motion. One of
the concerns we have getting these rmbers on
Fort Leonard Wood so late in the game here is
that 551 is an extremely high number. And if
you go back to chart 9-L, and I think you were
kind of Looking at this, there is recognized
excess in initial training. And is that
number suspect based on those excesses? Maybe
it is.
GEM JOHNSON: By inspection it
is, but I don't know that --
MR. BEHRMANN: WeLl, we just
haven't gotten there yet, and I want to make
that clear.
COMMISSIONER BOWMAN: One of
the difficulties that I face is that when I
Look at what Army is proposing to give up in
the way of excess capacity, I don't see a Lot.
If I look at 9-L, it looks Like Leonard Wood
has a Lot of excess capacity. Fort McClellan
is relatively small. That's the officially
offered up excess capacity.
So I would think that Army
might well-- or we might consider putting
Fort Leonard Wood on the List for
consideration. However, the thing that turns
me away from that is the high costs that are
here. So I face kind of a paradox. I think
Army has excess capacity, that they're not
willing, for reasons stated previously, to
give up, yet I think they should. On the
secordiand, if it comes at too high a cost, we
can't do it. That's my concern and paradox.
MR. ROA : The staff shares
your concern, Commissioner Boman.
CHAIRMAN CARTER: Have you
finished all the charts relative to Leonard
wood?
MR. BROWN: Yes, I have, Mr.
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN CQJRTER: Any
discussion with respect to Leonard Wood?
Otherwise, I'll entertain the motion.
jia% response.)
t ,HVRMAN COJIRTER: No motions?
I 'm sorry? Codumis sioner H.?. Johnson. Yes,
I'm looking for+ a motion.
GEM JOHNSON: F irst of allt,
before making t:he motion, I think in making
the motion, 1 do it without prejudice for any
base. If we're going to look at the total
situation, we need to visit Wood and look at
the total. And to do that, we need to place f
it on the list.
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