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Queen City Broadcasting Co. et al.
a part of the series of telephone calls that formed the basis of the
abdication charge discussed in paragraph 101, supra. Mrs. Irwin
testified that-
(a) She talked to Mrs. Haas twice via telephone on June 3d and once on
June 4.
(b) In the first conversation of June 3, Mrs. Haas reiterated the dissatis-
faction that she and Mr. Haas felt over the amendment to channel 7.
(c) In the second conversation of June 3, Mrs. Haas stated that she had
talked to Hardgrove, who had told her (Mrs. Haas) "if you know Mrs.
Irwin well enough you might report to her if she moved over to channel
No. 4, Fisher would then offer her anything to get off. If she accepts
anything from Saul at this time she could then negotiate with Saul
for tower sites and so forth, which he would have to buy back. He
would then offer her anything because she would then be the main fly
in his ointment. She could force Mr. Fisher to pay her." (T. 3986.)
Mr. Hardgrove also allegedly told Mrs. Haas to tell Mrs. Irwin that, if
this suggestion was followed, KVI could "make a nice piece of change
from both parties." (T. 3987.) Mrs. Irwin's reply was, in part, that
"anyone who thought we were going to sell, or trade, or barter, or in
any way jeopardize that station by making such a deal as had been sug-
gested was very much mistaken-" (T. 3989) and that she would not
object to being quoted to Mr. Hardgrove.
(d) On June 4, Mrs. Haas called again and "she said that she had called
George Hardgrove, that he had called Saul in the middle of the night,
that Saul had called Paul Porter, and Paul Porter had called her at
7: 30 our time on that morning. Mr. Porter suggested that we could
very well jump to channel No. 4, that the changing of channels was
being done all the time in Washington, and that if our attorneys were
advising us that we could not jump channels, then our attorneys were
giving us wrong advice. I told her that I realized that people could
jump channels, that it was being done all the time, but the fact that
KIRO had switched channels, as they had, within the same hour, that
made it look rather strange to us, and we had no intention of jumping to
another channel." (T. 3990.)
111. Mrs. Haas testified that, when she telephoned Mrs. Irwin and
expressed "her unhappiness" over the KIRO switch, that Mrs. Irwin
"seemed to feel that we had sold out." (Haas dep., 88.) Following
this conversation, Mrs. Haas testified that she telephoned Hardgrove
and apprised him of Mrs. Irwin's attitude; that Hardgrove charac-
terized it as ridiculous and said, in substance, "well tell her to go over
and try it herself if she thinks we got paid off." (Haas dep., 91.) On
cross-examination, Mrs. Haas was asked if she made the statement
attributed to her by Mrs. Irwin in paragraph 110 (c), supra, she re-
plied, "I may well have made that, may very well have said just ex-
actly-not that, but along those lines. Because if we got paid off, all
she had to do was to get paid off, too, that is all." (Haas dep., 101.)
112. Hardgrove testified that Mrs. Haas, in her telephone conver-
sation with him, led him to believe that "that Mrs. Irwin seemed to
feel that there was something-that KIRO profited wrongly by this
transfer, to which I answered that to me it sounded ridiculous. And
I went this far. The statement was made that this station, that KIRO
had profited. I said, 'Well, if it is so easy to get all this kind of
money, why doesn't someone else do it?' " (Hardgrove dep., 106.)
He specifically denied either making the statement attributed to him
by Mrs. Irwin (par. 110 (c), supra) or suggesting to Mrs. Haas that
perhaps Mrs. Irwin could force Fisher to pay her to vacate channel 4.
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