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THE CONGRESSIONAL GLOBE.
whicJi tht Houdf proposed tt suspend,'and the
•Treat mischiefs that would result from dispensing
Wit i it. it mil been adopted after a full knowl-
of the inconveniences of the old practice,
:v.ii 'v- n found to have the most beneficial
,Thev ail knew Hie experience of Con-
cuss was such, that sonw of the most important
1 . ii.ui linen pnss>4 on tW last night of the ses-
m«h, without debute, whipt through the other
House, ind thev ; th>- Senate) were called on to
^s^eni. to them without knowing whether they
vn passed (■ v n quorum or nou
Although tie felt the strongest disposition to
vloU! to the whiles of gentlemen whose constit-
uents were interested in particular measures, yet,
on tins oec;ision, In- fe!t it his duty to persist
in his objections. He felt thht miikm™ any ex-
ceiiuons would be equivalent to a departure from
the role altogether; and, if th« v excepted in favor
of any particular measures in the Senate, why
mis Ut not the House do the same thins, apd enrry
it further? He appealed to gentlemen whether
h>s course in that body had not always been con-
ciliatory and ready to yield to the wishes of a
niajotity; and he assured gentlemen that, in this
instance, he was actuated by no unkind orunac-
commodnting feelings, but solely by & sense of
jdr. CALHOUN said they all knew that this
ml> was r.dopii-d afu'r many years of experience,
at.ii iliat, on the last day of the session, the Ex-
ecutive hod no opportunity to examine a number
of bills. He felt obliged to the Senator from
N or;,j Carolina lor making his objections, as he
thought it highly important that the rute should
But i<lax< d.
iir. LINN did not suppose, for a moment, tliat
bis friend from North Carolina was actuated by
any unkind feuhnga, but that his objections were
prompted by a sense of duty ; but he begged him
to reflect a moment whether there were not occa-
sions on which the most rigid rule should be dis-
pensed with, and whether this was not one of
tliem. It appeared (Mr. L. said) that tliis rule
had been relaxed on more than one occasion, and
he trusted that the gentleman would see that there
were some reasons for not so rigidly adhering to
it now. If there was one single bill that ought
to pass, why, let it be excepted; but if it should
be found that all ought not to pass, or that there
were objections to them tending to create discus-
sion, whv, let them fall. In this particular case,
he wished to vxcept from the rule the bill for the
confirmation of land claims in Missouri; a meas-
ure to which there was not the slighest objection,
and one of the greatest interest to his constituents,
who had been long- anxiously looking for its
passage. He should regret exceedingly to see
that measure, which hail passed both lluusee,
and only waited the President's signature to be-
come a tew, cut off t>y the rigid adherence to a
role which could not have been intended to apply1 i
to such a case. He could not conceive that it was
the duty of the Senate of the United Stales to
make its rules as irreversible as the law* of the
Modes and Persians, or that it ever intended tft
(nake rules that should by no possibility be re-
laxed. He admitted the general propriety of tfce
role, bat he repeated the hope that the Senator
from North Carolina would see that there were
occasions on which it might be departed from
Mr. WALKER felt conscious that the objec-
tions of the Senator from North Carolina, and
sustained by the Senator from SoOtir Carolina,
resulted from a strict sense of duty; but he ap-
pealed to those gentlemen whether their objections
to bills that had been passed in a hurry, right-
fully applied to bills that passed after full consider-
ation, ahd to which there were bo objections. He
begged gentlemen to consider whether such bills
ought not to be excepted from the general rule.
The bill he particularly referred to, and which he
felt so anxious to become a law, was the bill to
carry into effect the compact between the United
States and the States of Alabama and Mississippi,
relative to the sixteenth sections of school landB,
which passed the Senate two months ago, was
reported favorably on by the Committee on Pub-
lic Lands unanimously, having the sanction 'of
its chairman, [Mr. Ewiso.of Ohio,J-#ho wa^ so
rigid in his examination of every bill relating to
the public lands. Now he appealed to gentlemen
whether the rule ought to apply to such a bill as
th.s : He did not wish the rule to be suspended
with regard to any bill to which there was the
slightest objections; and he hoped the Senator
from North Carolina would yield to the genera:
wish of the Senate, and withdraw his opposi-
Mr. BLACK read a list of the bills which
would bo sent to the President under the resolu-
tion, if adopted by the Senate, and said that he
would offer an amendment to prevent its being
After some remarks from Mr. PORTER,
The CHAIR stated that the rule was impera-
tive. The rule was, that no bill or resolution
should be sent to the President on the last day
of the session. The Chair, however, felt bound
to sign the bills, and, in the mean time, any gen-
tleman who thought proper might appeal from
Mr. MANGUM said, that the measure he
regarded as the most pernicious not being in-
cluded in the resolution, he would yield to the
wishes of his friends, and withdraw his objec-
Mr. LINN said that his friend from North
Carolina, in withdrawing his objections, had acted
with that kindness and good feeling which had
always characterized his course in that body. If
he could mention one act which would confer a
greater degree of happiness on a particular por-
tion of the peopie, he would refer to the bill he
had already mentioned; and in behalf of those
who would be so essentially benefited by this
most just and necessary measure, lie returned his
thanks to the Senator from North Carolina for
withdrawing his objections to the suspension of
After some remarks from Messrs. WALKER
Mr. BLACK offered an amendment to the rule
of the House, specifying particularly all the acts
which should be embraced in it, and confining its
operation to them solely; but at the suggestion
of the Chair, modified his amendment so as to
make the resolution of the House read as fol-
Resolved, That the 17tli joint rule of the two Houses or
Congress, which declares that no bill or resolution shall be
submitted to the, Pre«i<l?nt for his signature on ■the last day
of the scsitin, lie su?pended "o far ns respscts such acts
and resolutions as have already passed both Homes, and
received the signatures of their presiding officers.
The resolution, thus amended, was agreed to,
and sent to the other House for concurrence;
A message was received from the House of
Representatives, by Mr. Franklin, their Clerk,
stating that they had concurred in the amendment.
After the consideration of executive business,
A message was received from tho President of
the United States, by Mr. Donelson, his Private
Secretary, stating that he had signed the several
bills (specifying them by their titles) submitted
to him on that day.
The motion submitted by Mr. GRUNDY, for
the appointment of a joint committee to wait on
the President of the United States to inform him
that the two Houses of Congress ware ready to
adjourn, and'desiring to know whether he had
any further communications to make to them,
was taken up and agreed to.
After waiting some time, Mr. CrRUNDY, from
the joint committee appointed to wait on the
President, reported that they had performed the
duty assigned them, and that the President had
answered that he had no further communications
to make to Congress.
On motion of Mr. BUCHAN"AN,
The Senate adjourned sine die.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
Mondat, July 4, 1836.
Mr. MASON, of Virginia, asked the consent
of the House to offer the following resolution:
Resolved, That the 16th and 17th joint rules of the two
Houses which provides that no bill that shall have passed
One House shall be sent Cor concurrence to the other on
etUier of the three last days of the session; and which also
prohibits any bill or resolution that Bhall have passed the
House of Representatives and the Senate shall be presented
to the President of the United Sates tbr his approbation on
the last day of the session, is hereby suspended until half
past tw« o'clock, p. nv, of this day, M far as respects bills
of the Senate now in the House of Representatives, and
bill's of the House of Representatives now ill the Senate.
Objection being made, Mr. M. moved a sus-
pension of the rules, and briefly explained his
objcct to be to embrace some bills that had passed
the two Houses, but had riot received the signa-
tures of the presiding officers.
Mr. RIPLEY asked for the yeas and nays;
which were ordered.
Several suggestions were made to Mr. Mason
to specify the Dills by their titles; and
Mr. WHITTLESEY stated that there had not
been an unconditional rescinding of the joint rules
for fourteen years.
The question was then taken; and the House
refused to suspend—84 to 77; not two thirds.
Mr. MASON then moved a suspension of the
rules, for the purpose of offering the following:
lies That the 17th joint rule of the two Houses,
which declares that ''no bill or resolution that shall have
passed the House of Representatives and the Senate shall
be presented to thn President of the United States for his
approbation on the last (lay of the session," be suspended
until the hour of twelve o'clock this day, so far as to em-
brace tlio-c bills which have passed the two Houses.
Mr, WILLIAMS, of North Carolina, asked
for the yeas and nays, for he said he did not wish
, to lie detained there all night; which were or-
After various suggestions by Messrs. VIN-
TON, PATTON, WHITTLESEY of Ohio, and
THOMAS, as to certain bills being embraced
within the resolution, and the mode of doing so,
Mr. WHITTLESEY, of Ohio, moved to ex-
cept the bill to transfer certain appropriations
from the Potomac bridge to other uses.
Mr. MASON, of Virginia, accepted the abov£
as o modification >
Mr. THOMAS moved to include in the reso-
lution a joint resolution annulling certain laws of
the Legislative Council of Florida; and called for
the yeas and nays on his motion; but they were
The amendment of Mr. T. was then agreed to.
Mr. T. moved further to amend the resolution
by embracing the bill to amend the judicial system
of the United States.
Mr. LYON called for the yeas and nays; which
were ordered; nd were—yeas 94, nays 61. , .
So the amendment was agreed to.
Mr. CAMBRtELENG moved to mejude the bill
to alter and amend the act imposing duties on
: imports; which was lost..
Mr. C. then moved to include the bill supple-
mentary to the act for the relief of the sufferers
by the late fire in New York.
Mr. WILLIAMS,, of North Carolina, called
for the yeas and nays,
Mr. MASON, of Ohio, demanded the previous
Mr. VINTON moved to lay the whole subject
on the table, and' called for the yeas and. nays;
which were not ordered.
The motion to lay on the table was then decided
ia the negative—ayes 43, noes not eoimted. '
The previous question was then' seconded—
ayes 95,1 noes not counted; and the main question
was opdered to be put.
Mr. ADAMS called for a division of the ques
The CHAIR decided that the motion to suspend
was not divisible, inasmuch as the object for
which a suspension of the rules is asked must
necessarily form a part of the motion.
Mr. ADAMS appealed from the decision of the
Chair, and called for tie yeas and nays on the
appeal; Which were not ordered. _
The decision of the Chair was then affirmed
without a division.
The question vm then taken on the motion to
suspend the rules; which was decided in tkeaffirm-
ative— t'eBs 111, hays 53.
Mr JARVIS moved to amend the resolution
by including the bill forthe enlistment of boys
in the Navy, and the bill in relation to the marine
corps; which was lost.
Mr.'GrARLAND, of Louisiana, moved to in-
clude the bill allowing the Apalachicola Railroad
Company to locate on the puhhc lands.
Mr PINCKNEY moved to amend the amend-
ment by including the bill for the relief of Thomas
Cooper; which was lost.
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