Register of Debates in Congress, Comprising the Leading Debates and Incidents of the Second Session of the Eighteenth Congress Page: 169
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OF DEBATES IN CONGRESS.
Drawback on Cordage.—President's Accounts. [Sen. & H. of R.
Mr. VANCE, of Ohio, (by leave obtained,) offered the
following, [which was adopted ori the following day.]
Resolved, That the Secretary of the Treasury "be re-
quested to furnish this. House, with a statement showing
what portion of the money paid in virtue of the act of
9th of April, 1816, and the subsequent acts amendatory
thereof, and what moneys have been paid under the 9th
section of the act of April 1816, and of that portion,
what part was paid to the claimants on the Niagara fron-
tier, and also designating on what claims the residue of
the said money has been paid.
IN SENATE—THURSDAY, ,lAtiCAKr II, 1825.
The Senate resumed, as in committee of the whole,
the bill for allowing a drawback on the exportation of
cordage manufactured from foreign hemp in the United
Mr. RUGGLK5 explained the object of the bill, which
was simply to allow persons to import raw hemp into
the United States to manufacture it into cordage, and in
exporting it again to receive a drawback. There w;is a
considerable demand for cordage in South America, but
this country was unable at present to compete with
Great Britain, where no more duty was paid on the ex-
portation of the manufactured article than was paid on
the raw material. If this bill were passed, it would be
a great encouragement to many persons who were rea-
dy to enter into the business of rope making, and would
likewise encourage the growth of Flax in this country,
by creating an increased demand for the article; and
the bill effectually guarded against any fraud on the re-
Mr. D'WOLF observed, that, in the formation of
this Government, care had been taken to prevent Con-
gress laying any tax on exports; it was certainly clear
that this bill ought to pass, for the obvious reason that
the present law, exacting a duty on the raw material,
operated as a direct tax on the exportation of the ar-
ticles made from it. This branch of industry began
with the settlement of this country ; and the people who
were engaged in it were masters of their business, and
were able to compete with any nation, if they could go
into the market on an equality with them. If this mea-
sure were adopted, many of the gross manufactured ar-
ticles of the United States could compete with those of
other countries in the South American market; but he
he had selected the article hemp, because he thought it
would strike both Houses of Congress more forcibly
than any other he could name. This country would re-
ceive very little benefit from the South American mar-
ket being thrown open, if it had to buy every thing of
them and sell nothing; it was the interchange of the
products of national industry that rendered commerce
valuable, and it was this that every nation was looking
to. In this business of making cordage, a large capital
is already invested—the manufacturers wish to carry this
produce to a foreign market, and will do so if you will
remove the shackles that restrain them. The Constitu-
tion intended that every branch of industry should be
brought to market on fair grounds and free from em-
barrassment—and what was asked in this bill was no
more than justice.
After some verbal amendments, which were discussed
by Messrs. LLOYD, of Mass. D'WOLF, HOLMES, of
Maine, and SMITH, the bill was, on motion of Mr.
DICKERSON, postponed, and made the order of the
day for to-morrow.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES—SAMK J)A y.
Mr. CRO WNINSHIEI/D, from the Committee on Na-
yal Affairs, reported a bill, " providing additional means
for the suppression of piracy which was twice read
and committed to a Committee of the Whole on the state
of the Union.
After the first reading of the bill, Mr. FORSYTH
rose, and made a statement exculpating the Committee
of Foreign Relations from any charge of neglect or de^
lay on this subject. The moment the committee met,
he said, application was made at the Department of
State for the papers in relation to it, but none had yet
Reciprocal explanations were further made by Messrs.
CROWNINSH1ELD and FULLER, the substance of
which went to remove any idea of the Committees on
Naval Affairs and of Foreign Relations, entertaining the
least intention to interfere with each other's duties, or
cast any imputation upon each other.
ACCOUNTS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE U. S.
Mr. INGHAM moved to refer the Message of the Pre-
sident of the United States, received on Thursday last,
to a Select Committee.
Mr. BARTLETT said, that, among the considera-
tions which are stated, in the Message, to have induced
the President of the United States to call the attention
of Congress to this subject, one was, that the proposed
investigation would operate as a salutary precedent for
the future. Now, Mr. B. said, the Message referred to
matters of different kinds: a part of it referred to the
private claims of the President upon the Government,
and a part of it to his official transactions. The Mes-
sage asks that the accounts of the President shall be
treated and investigated in the same manner as the
claims or accounts of any other individual. To comply
with the invitation of the Message, in this respect, and
to give full effect to the precedent to be established in
this case, Mr. 13. moved to refer so much o' the Mes-
sage as refers to the private claims or accounts.of the
President, to the Committee of Claims, and if this mo-
tion succeeded, would move to refer so much of it as
relates to the disbursements, by the President, of Pub-
lic Moneys, to such other standing committee of the
House, as might properly have cognizance of the mat-
ter. The reason fortius course was, that the Committee
of Claims, besides being a diligent committee, versed in
such matters, had also established rules of decision in re-
gard to the principles of claims, be. which it could readily
apply in this case. Such a disposition of the Message, also,
would obviate the imputation which,whether justly or un-
justly, often attends the reports of select committees, of
partiality in their reports, &c. by reason of which a re-
port from a select committee on this subject would be
much less effective, in regard to future legislation, than
if it had been made by a standing committee. He hoped,
therefore, the same course would be taken in the pre-
sent case as though it were the case of an individual.
Mr. INGHAM assigned some reasons why he had pro-
posed to refer the President's Message to a Select Com-
mittee. Since the Message had been laid on the table,
he had abstained from renewing the motion for refer-
ence; and he had not learned, in the interval,.from any
gentleman, that any other disposition of the Message
than that was desired. The Message, Mr. I said, was of
a compound character : it involved considerations of.a
very delicate nature, which had been the principal in-
ducements to the President to transmit it to Congress.
With regard to whatever accounts the investigation of
the subject might involve, it would be extremely diffi-
cult to separate them. Hence he had moved the refer-
ence to a select committee. If, however, it should ap-
pear to that committee, on examination, that the accounts
furnished a proper subject of investigation for the Com-
mittee of Claims, if of a private nature, or tor the Com-
mittee of Foreign Relations, if for services abroad, they
could, so report! &c. Mr. I. said he had himself no per-
sonal knowledge on this subject, nor any special anxie-
ty. He thought it proper, however, that the Message
should be respectfully disposed of.
Mr. BRENT, of J-on. suggested, as a reason why the
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