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4-P-PENBIX—-Tq (*4iU$ & SeMon's Megister.
18th Congress, ,
2(1 Session. '
Negotiations with Frame.
[ B. of R.
our citizens, we still hope that their unquestionable
character will, ultimately, secure to them a consider-
ation unincumbered with other discussions. You will,
respectfully, make this representation to the Vis-
count de (Jhateaubriand, with the assurance of the
readiness of this government to discuss the question up-
on theLouisiana convention further, if desired by France,
but of our final conviction that it is not to be blended
with the claims of our citizens for mere justice."
Count De Menou to Mr, Mams.
Legation of France to the United States,
Washington, July 11, 1823.
tlis excellency the Viscount de Chateaubriand, in an-
nouncing to me that Mr. Gallatin was about to leave
France, expresses his regret at his departure, in such
terms, that I should do him injustice, were I not to use
his own expressions: " My correspondence with this mi
nister," he remarks to me, "has caused me to appreciate
his talents, his ability, and his attachment to the system
of friendship that unites the two powers. It is with re-
gret that 1 suspend my communications with him."
1 esteem myself happy, sir, in conveying to you such
sentiments towards the representative of the U. States, in
France; and ['should have thought that I had but imper-
fectly apprehended the design of the Viscount de Cha-
teaubriand, had I neg-lected to communicate them to the
The minister for foreign affairs reminds me also, on
tin's occasion, that Mr. Gallatin, having frequently laid
before him claims of Americans against the French go-
vernment, he had shown himself disposed to enter upon
a general negotiation, in which they should be compre-
hended with claims of French citizens against the fede-
ral government, at the same time with the arrangement
relative to the execution of the 8th article of the treaty
of Louisiana. The object of his excellency was to ar-
rive at a Sf>eedy and friendly disposition of all difficul-
ties that might subsist between the two powers, well as-
sured that France anil the United States would be found
to have the same views of justice and conciliation.
His excellency regrets that Mr, Gallatin, who, he says,
"has convinced him how pleasing- and advantageous it is
to negotitate with a statesman, who exhibits candor and
ability in his discussions," did not receive from his go-
vernment, during his stay in France, the necessary pow-
ersfor this double negotiation. But he informs me that
the government of his Majesty remains always disposed
to open it, either with Mr. Gallatin, should he return
with these powers, or with Mr. Sheldon, if the federal
government should think proper to confer them on him.
X greatly desire, sir, to see these propositions acceded
to by the federal government, and to be able to reply to
his excellency, as he expresses his wish that an arrange-
ment, putting an end to every subject of discussion,
might soon be expected.
I pray the Secretary of State to receive tile renewed
assurance of my high consideration.
The Charge d'Affaires of France, near the U. States,
Hon. Secretary of State.
Mr. Adams to Count Be Menou.
Dv;:\uit.m i:nt of State,
Washington, 12th August, 1823.
Sin ; Your letter of the 11th of last -month has been
submitted to the consideration of the President of the
Wnited States, by whom I am directed to express the high
satisfaction that he has felt, at the manner in which His
Excellency the Viscount de Chateaubriand has noticed,
in his correspondence with you, the temporary absence
sf Mr. Gallatin from France, and the terms ®f regard
and esteem with which he notices the character and con-
duct of that minister. The anxious desire of the Presi-
dent for the promotion of the good understanding be-
tween the United S tates and France, could not be more
gratified than by the testimonial of his Most Christian
Majesty's Government to the good faith and ability with
which the minister of the United States at his court, has
performed his official duties.
With regard to the assurance of His Excellency the
Viscount de Chateaubriand's disposition to enter upon a
negotiation with Mr. Gallatin, in the event of his return
to France, or with Mr. Sheldon, during his absence,con-
cerning the claims of citizens of the United States on
the government of France, in connection with an ar-
rangement concerning the 8th article of the Louisiana
treaty, t am directed to observe that those subjects rest
upon grounds so totally different, that the Government
of" the United States cannot consent to connect them to-
gether in negotiation.
The claims of the citizens of the United States upon
the French government, have been of many years
standing; often represented by successive ministers of
the United States, and particularly by Vlr. Gallatin, dur-
ing a residence of seven years, with a perspicuity of
statement, and a force of evidence, which could leave to
the government of the United States no desire but that
they should have been received with friendlv attention,
ami no regret but that they should have proved ineffec-
tual. The justice of these claims has never been denied
by France; and while the United States are still com-
pelled to wait for their adjustment, similar, and less
forceful claims of the subjects of other nations, have
been freely admitted and liquidated.
A long and protracted discussion has already taken
place between the two governments, in relation to the
claim of France, under the 8th article of the Louisiana
convention s the result of which has been a thorough
conviction on the part of the American Government that
the claim has no foundation in the Treaty whatever. The
reasons for this conviction have been so fully set forth
in the discussion, that it was not anticipated a further
examination of it would be thought desirable. Asa sub-
ject of discussion, however, the American Government
are willing to resume it, whenever it may suit the views
of France, to present further considerations relating to
it; but, while convinced that the claim is entirely with-
out foundation, they cannot place it on a footing of con-
current negotiation with claims of their citizens, the
justice of which is so unequivocal that they have not
even been made the subject of denial.
From the attention which His Excellency the Viscount
de Chateaubriand has intimated his willingness to give
to the consideration of these claims, the President in-
dulges the hope that they will be taken into view upon
their own merits; and in that hope the representative of
the United States at Paris, will, at an early day, be in-
structed to present them again, to the undivided and un-
conditional sense of the justice of France.
I pray you, sir, to accept the renewed assurance of my
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS.
The Count Menou,
Charge d'affaires from France.
Extract of a Utter from Mr. Sheldon, No. 11, to Mr.
Adams, dated Paris, 16th Oct. 1823-
" X took an early occasion, after the receipt of your
despatch, No. 1 of the 10th August, to communicate
the subjects of it, in a conversation I had with Viscount
de Chateaubriand. His observations in relation to that
of the claims, as connected with the pretensions of
Franco, under the Louisiana treaty, were of a very gen-
eral nature, and amounted to little more than a repeti-
tion of his readiness to enter upon the consideration of
whatever subjects of discussion might exist between the
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