Register of Debates in Congress, Comprising the Leading Debates and Incidents of the Second Session of the Eighteenth Congress Page: 33
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OF DEBATES IN CONGRESS.
DEO. 21, 1824.]
Gratitude to Lafayette.
[S. & H. of R.
nation, there existed but one feeling of gratitude and
affection for Lafayette. He knew that the bill would
, pass with more than usual unanimity, but he consider-
ed gentlemen, who had scruples on the score of prece-
dent, or who objected to the details of the plan, as en-
titled to the explanations, which he had attempted to
give, of the views and opinions of the committee.
Mr. MACON rose to disclaim the belief that Gen. La-
fayette.had ever furnished any document, or made to any
person any intimation whatever, on the subject of the
measure now before the Senate. 'Vs for himself, Mr. M.
said, he wished it to be understood that, in opposing this
bill, be discharged what was to him a painful duty. His
objection was not to the details, but to the principle of
the bill, and the arguments of the gentleman had not sa-
tisfied him that the objection was not well founded. Not
that he had any doubt of the truth of the statements
which had been made by the gentleman from South
Carolina. With respect to Europe, Mr. M. said that he
had no doubt that all the respect wliich had been shown
to General Lafayette here, was unpleasant to the rulers
of that country. On this side of the water, all were glad
to see him j even the tories who were yet living would
be glad to see him. Among a nation of strangers to his
person, General Lafayette could go no where in this
country without meeting with friends. No hand, in any
part of this country, touches his but he may feel the
heart's blood beat in its fingers. Mr. M. said he should
regret, it, if the South, when he goes there, should be
behind any other part of the Union in their demonstra-
tions of regard for this distinguished man. He did not
believe they would be. Wherever he moves, among the
mountains, or on the plains, he receives a heartfelt wel-
come. T his, Mr. M. said, would sufficiently satisfy Eu-
rope, if any doubt remained on that point, what is the
opinion which this country entertains of the services of
Mr. BKOWN said, that, in the suggestion which he
had made about the creation of the stock, &c. it had
been no part of his intention to eml arrass this bill. Be-
ing assured, by some of the Senators, for whose opinion
he had very great deference, that the bill did not inter-
fere with the prerogatives of the House of Representa-
tives, to allow of a direct vote on its merits, he withdrew
the motion for its recommitment.
The bill was then ordered to be engrossed for a third
Mr. SMITH, of Maryland, entirely according .in the
suggestion of the gentleman from South Carolina, that
whatever was done on this subject, if done, ought to be
done quickly, moved that the bill should have its third
reading this day.
The engrossed bill making provision for General La-
fayette was accordingly read a third time : and the ques-
tion being stated on its passage—
Mr. NOBLE, of Indiana, professing a due sense of the
merits and claims of General Lafayette, said, that, never-
theless, to a bill shaped as this was, he could not give
his sanction. If, for opposing it, the nation, or his con-
stituents, thought proper to condemn him, he was per-
fectly willing to abide their verdict. To show that he
was so, he asked for the yeas and nays on the question
of the passage of this bill.
The yeas and nays were ordered according!}', and
were taken as follows :
YEAS—Messrs. Barbour, Bouligny, Branch, Chand-
ler, Clayton, Dickerson, Eaton, Jackson, Johnson, of Ky.
Johnston, of Lou. Kelly, King, of Alab. King, of N. \.
Knight, Lanman, Lloyd, of Mass. Lloyd, of Maryland,
Edwards, Elliott, Findlay, Gaillard, Hayne, Holmes, of
Maine, Holmes, of Miss. Lowrie, M'X.ean, Mills, Palmer,
Harrott, Seymour, Smith, Talbot, Taylor, Thomas, Van
Buren, Van Dyke, Williams,
NAYS.—Messrs. Barton, Bell, Brown, Cobb, Macon,
Vor.. I. —
So the bill was passed and sent to the House of Re-
presentatives for concurrence.
Mr. BARBOUR submitted the following, which was
taken up and agreed to.
" Jiestih-ed, That the President of the United States
be requested to cause to be communicated to the Se-
nate, such information as he may possess (and which may
be safely communicated) relative to the piracies referred
to in his Message, and the means heretofore adopted by
the Executive for their suppression ; and that the Presi-
dent be also requested to state the additional means ne-
cessary and expedient to be enstrusted to the Executive
for the suppression of the same."
After consideration of Executive business,
The Senate adjourned.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES—SAME DAY.
Mr. RANDOLPH, from the Committee on the Services
and Sacrifices of General Lafayette, reported a bill
"concerning General Lafayette which was twice read
and made the order of the day for to-day. [This bill
corresponds with the bill yesterday reported in the Se-
nate on the same subject, except that, instead of 200,-
000 dollars in stock of the United States, it proposes to
give him the same amount in money, with the addition
proposed by the Senate's bill, of an entire township of
After some reports of committees were made, and the
usual morning business disposed of—
Mr. RANDOLP H moved that the orders of the day be
dispensed with, in order to take up the bill' concerning
Ueneial Lafayette. Mr. BEECHER hoped the House
would not consent to do so—but, the question not ad-
mitting debate, it was put, and carried by a large ma-
The House accordingly went into committee of the
whole on that bill, Mr. MARKLEY in the chair; and
the bill having been read,
Mr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio, rose,and said, thatit might
appear uncourteous in any gentleman to oppose the
passage of a bill having such an object as that now be-
fore the committee ; yet, under present circumstances,
brought in as that bill bad been, suddenly upon the
House, and called, as gentlemen were, to act upon it,
without the opportunity of consultation, or a moment's
reflection, he felt it to be his duty to oppose its farther
progress. This might, perhaps, be considered as his
reproach ; but he felt it to be his duty, and he must
fearlessly discharge it. He could have wished that the
gentleman who introduced.the bill had cultivated a little
more of the virtue patience. He did expect that, in
presenting such a bill to this House, the merits and
claims of the individual for whose benefit it was intend-
ed would have been stated, and the reasons which had
induced the committee to fix upon this amount of com-
pensation would have been disciosed. He was far from
being insensible to the merits of that distinguished in-
dividual; and if, upon a deliberate statement of ail the
facts of his case, he should be convinced that his claims,
even to such a large amount of remuneration, were
founded in justice, he would go as far as any member of
the House in allowing them, and in voting an appropria-
tion. Whatever might be thought of his present con-
duct, Mr. C. declared that he was neither insensible to
the services of General Lafayette, nor ungrateful tor
them ; but he disapproved of the maimer in which the
bill had been attempted to.be hurried through the
House; and, though he might notsucceed in preventing
its passage, he should certainly, in this public manner,
enter, for one, his protes&gainst it.
Mr. GAZLAY, of Ohio, said, that he, too, felt it to be
his duty to protest, in common with his colleague,
against the passage of the bill, at least in its prsenttorm.
No member of that House, could be ignorant of the mw-
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