Pop Chronicles Interviews #128 - Frank Zappa, part 2

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  1. Gilliland asks "When should we start taking you seriously?"; Zappa responds; Gilliland: "What are you really trying to do?"; the element of shock; story of New York concert with Marines; changing people's minds 0:04:02
  2. Advertising and manipulation; why radio stations won't play his music; anecdote about radio appearance with Jefferson Airplane; suggesting representative selections; comparing Arnold Schoenberg and John Lee Hooker 0:03:43
  3. Planning parodies; selections on Freak Out; Elvis Presley anecdotes and "Help, I'm a Rock"; "Blue-Eyed Soul" artists; Eric Clapton; question of whether he'd like to see more parody; comparisons to The Fuggs; written arrangements; Lukas Foss 0:05:50
  4. Studio versus live performance; vocal quartet; comparing current scene to circa 1953; music critics; "Edna" by the Medallions; the Beatles' A Day in the Life; harmonic tension 0:06:01
  5. Junior college grant project and theory about parallel fifths; musical training; chorale harmonization; activities after high school [foul language]; Eric Burdon's comments; whether people always know he's doing satire; "America Drinks and Goes Home" 0:05:22
  6. "Secret stuff" in music; people's reactions or resistance to "put-ons"; reaction to his own work in hindsight; long hair as "brain ends"; what is lost in transcribed interviews 0:04:59
  7. What can be played on the radio; Riverside Radio in New York; FCC monitoring and KRLA restructuring (1964); educational television; whether he resents interviews such as the one he is doing; ASCAP/BMI in 1940s and marginalization of instrumental music; Arthur Lee; Jim Morrison; other groups and artists he likes; Captain Beefheart; Don Van Vliet; how radio stations treat his music; Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston; Alex St. Clair 0:10:34


Recording of John Gilliland interviewing Frank Zappa in Glendale, California for the Pop Chronicles radio program series.

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Gilliland, John March 5, 1969.


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Recording of John Gilliland interviewing Frank Zappa in Glendale, California for the Pop Chronicles radio program series.

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1 recording (40 min., 30 sec.)


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  • Accession or Local Control No: John_Gilliland_Collection_128_Disc_2_-_Frank_Zappa
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John Gilliland's Pop Chronicles

Conceptualized in 1967 after attending the Monterey International Pop Music Festival, John Gilliland's "The Pop Chronicles" traces the history of popular music from the 1950's through the 1960's. Mr. Gilliland wrote, narrated and produced these 55 hours of broadcasting first airing at KRLA Pasadena, California. in February 1969. The pop music history is told by an interleaving of Mr. Gilliland's narration, music, and comments from the interviews of the people directly involved in the music scene of the day.

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  • March 5, 1969

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  • June 24, 2020, 12:50 p.m.

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  • June 25, 2020, 1:58 p.m.

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Gilliland, John. Pop Chronicles Interviews #128 - Frank Zappa, part 2, audio recording, March 5, 1969; (https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1703858/: accessed July 30, 2021), University of North Texas Libraries, UNT Digital Library, https://digital.library.unt.edu; crediting UNT Music Library.

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