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new training program to teach other people how to do what I had basi-
cally stumbled upon.
BOC: So when you were doing the research, were you talking with
other people?
GM: It was all team. ISDT is what it was called-Instructional Sylla-
bus Development Team-with civilians as well as scientists. They
based all of their instruction on real-world people who had experienced
it. It was involved with Lockheed as well as Magnavox and lots of oth-
er people. We were the foundation of this thing-writing problem sit-
uations, looking at oceanography, the topography of the bottom of the
ocean-but that's what it was about. We studied that hard and we
called people in and asked: "Have you ever been in this part of the
ocean? And experienced a submarine encounter?"
I did that for about nine months, and I made rank while I was
there and left there highly recommended for anything in the world.
Well there goes the myth again. My initial encounter was now promul-
gated again to another level, and I hated it some more. But because of
that I was allowed to go to this tiny, small, third-world country called
Bermuda. And I had to suffer [said with a wink and a smile] there for
three-and-a-half years. But while there I met two people. One was a
master chief-old, old guy who started out his submarine hunting in
balloons and helium crafts-by the name of Ken Ickies. We called him
The Boss just because he had done it so long. And the other one was a
guy by the name of Tommy E. Davis, and he was just getting ready to
retire. I learned more from watching him, just looking at what he did.
There was so much that had to go on. I had to do hours of train-
ing. There was aircrew coming and going [that] had to be briefed and
debriefed, and replays that had to be done and computer things. And
out of all of that I learned some, but watching Tommy Davis was the
most giving and just-let me think if I can capture a word-he just
knew. He was before technology. He was before computers. He had so
many stories, and I would sit and listen to him when we were at the
beach or the ballpark. He'd say: "Gary Mac, you know this and that and
you gotta do this. Think this way. If it's this boat then it's probably this
skipper. If it's this other boat it's probably this skipper." He didn't re-
tire in Bermuda. He retired out of Florida.
But while I was still in Bermuda, we got in a situation where we
didn't know what the then Soviet Union had planned. The ocean is di-
vided into sectors as far as antisubmarine warfare is concerned. It's like23
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O'Connor, Brian Clark; Copeland, Jud H., 1943- & Kearns, Jodi L. Hunting and Gathering on the Information Savanna, book, 2003; [Lanham, Maryland]. (https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc83323/m1/33/: accessed April 25, 2024), University of North Texas Libraries, UNT Digital Library, https://digital.library.unt.edu; crediting UNT College of Information.